{"id":1966,"date":"2024-10-29T08:46:38","date_gmt":"2024-10-29T16:46:38","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/bayesianinvestor.com\/blog\/?p=1966"},"modified":"2024-10-29T08:46:38","modified_gmt":"2024-10-29T16:46:38","slug":"criteria-for-voting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bayesianinvestor.com\/blog\/index.php\/2024\/10\/29\/criteria-for-voting\/","title":{"rendered":"Criteria for Voting"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>I&#8217;ve seen plenty of people recently ranting about how presidential candidate X is obviously terrible because of their position on Y. It&#8217;s often the case that if I were voting solely on Y, I&#8217;d agree that candidate X is terrible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I see patterns suggesting that those people tend to choose X first, and then choose one or more Y&#8217;s that fit an opponent of X.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I want to push back on these patterns, and explain why I expect to be confused as to how scared I should be by the upcoming election results, by focusing on issues based on how important I&#8217;d think they were if I didn&#8217;t know who would be running.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The most important issues are at least an order of magnitude more important than typical issues, so I ought to base my vote on the most important issues if at all possible.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">AI<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Governmental response to AI seems quite likely to be the most important political issue of the century.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Alas, it&#8217;s hard to figure out either what policies we want or what politicians are likely to implement them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lesswrong.com\/posts\/GXSMD84DgjJ7ch9T4\/why-the-2024-election-matters-the-ai-risk-case-for-harris\">This LessWrong post<\/a> is a mostly good attempt at analyzing AI-relevant factors of Trump and Harris&#8217; plans, although it sometimes goes astray with pro-Harris biases (e.g. treating Project 2025 as if it were Trump&#8217;s plan). It&#8217;s creates a slight presumption that Harris is better than Trump.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Here&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lesswrong.com\/posts\/GyjFwYs4PSGTcr54q\/ai-risk-and-the-us-presidential-candidates\">another summary<\/a>, which is more careful to focus only on candidates&#8217; statements about AI, concluding:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p>Well, that contradicts my above expectations quite a bit. Kennedy is completely aware of the actual problem and what is necessary to solve it. <strong>By far the best candidate.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">War with China<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A close second for top issue of the decade is the <a href=\"https:\/\/bayesianinvestor.com\/blog\/index.php\/2022\/10\/13\/cold-war-ii\/\">looming war over Taiwan<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It&#8217;s unclear whether any candidate takes seriously Beijing&#8217;s commitment to gain control over Taiwan by whatever force is needed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I have little ability to predict who would lose the most in a war between the US and China, but I consider it unlikely that any side will achieve significant benefits.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Trump&#8217;s skill as a bully provides him with some sense about when to avoid picking a fight with someone who&#8217;s too strong. He&#8217;s a xenophobic nationalist who doesn&#8217;t care much about what happens to foreigners, so he&#8217;s less likely than most politicians to go to war to protect Taiwan.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Most Democrats, probably including Harris, adopt a more deontological approach to international relations, fighting evil without calculating the odds. As far as I can tell, they&#8217;re committing to military engagement, while imagining that sanctions will deter Beijing from triggering the use of that military commitment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So Trump seems less likely to escalate a conflict against a major power.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kennedy and Oliver seem to have better anti-war track records than either Trump or Harris.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">The Rule of Law \/ Respect for Contracts<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Basic respect for rules is always an important foundation for cooperation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We may be approaching an era where it&#8217;s unusually important, in that there&#8217;s a chance that human welfare will depend on whether we can make credible contracts with minds that are much more capable than ours.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Democrats have a mediocre track record here. I don&#8217;t have good information as to how Harris compares to the average Democrat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Trump has a wildly varied track record regarding the rule of law. His judicial appointments seem to have above average respect for the rule of law (I&#8217;m guessing that a good deal of this is due to law schools holding conservatives to higher standards). OTOH, he has a terrible track record for many decisions over which he has more direct control. E.g. he rejects basic principles such as an obligation to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/search?q=trump+refuse+to+pay+contractors\">pay his bills<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve heard a good deal of negative things about Kennedy&#8217;s attitude toward litigation, which lead me to suspect he&#8217;s the worst candidate on this issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Libertarian Party normally prioritizes support for the rule of law, so I&#8217;m guessing Oliver is the top choice on this issue.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Conclusion<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m not going to tell you which candidate to vote for. My research has been too hasty to be thorough. I&#8217;m voting in a state that is not at all a swing state, so I&#8217;ve devoted less thought to it than I would if I voted in Pennsylvania. I&#8217;m sure I haven&#8217;t achieved an ideal level of objectivity. I&#8217;ve made many claims that will offend someone, and I&#8217;m not willing to spend much time defending them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m mainly trying to steer you away from bad reasoning. In particular, away from partisan choices about what criteria to use, and toward focusing on the most important issues.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If I hadn&#8217;t gone through the thought processes needed to write this post, I would be dismissing Kennedy as obviously an evil member of the outgroup. Now my choice feels a bit harder.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.S. I will block comments that merely provide a few counter-examples to my generalizations. I know there are exceptions to most of my generalizations. I&#8217;ll probably block anything that sounds too much like ingroup versus outgroup propaganda.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve seen plenty of people recently ranting about how presidential candidate X is obviously terrible because of their position on Y. 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